Now on Yahoo!

[FreakySteve]

Hi All,

So I’ve set up a Yahoo account specifically for doing chats and trying to help out where I can.

I’ll be scheduling some chats as well, so stay tuned!
😉

In the meantime, if you want to chat, message me here and I’ll send you my address.

Thx,
FS

[Anna]

FreakySteve wrote:

Hi All,

So I’ve set up a Yahoo account specifically for doing chats and trying to help out where I can.

I’ll be scheduling some chats as well, so stay tuned!
😉

In the meantime, if you want to chat, message me here and I’ll send you my address.

Thx,
FS

Help?

Help with what precisely?

[Serena]

Sorry FS.. I think you need to be more clear as to what you’re trying to archive… I’m getting a bit confused…

As far as i can see you’re not a buyer nor a seller.

I can see you’re trying to get girls to list themselves on your site, and i can see you are trying to market other girls products back here…

Its becoming a bit of a merry-go-round and I just don’t get it!

Please could you explain to us what your aim is?

Please don’t take this the wrong way, I think I speak for everyone when I say its confusing…

Cheers
Serena

[Cindy_PantyParadise]

I agree .. what kind of advice or help are you offering?

[FreakySteve]

No problem. I appreciate the request for clarification.

Here is the nutshell version:

My name is Freaky Steve. I am a fetish media producer located in Canada. I am a photographer, video producer, webmaster and marketer. I specialize in BDSM, kink and fetishes. I shoot out of a dungeon and have knowledge on a wide range of topics in these areas.

I work with many models and 2 of them very closely, as I am the one who runs and maintains their websites.

Here is why I am NOT here:

I am not here to buy panties. I love panties, but I have more than my share of access to goodies.

I am not here to steal members. I do not run a community site, nor do I plan to.

I am not here to sell things. I can buy advertising to do this.

Here is why I AM here:

To share my experience with panty sellers and perhaps help in their efforts.

To generate awareness of my site Panty Lane, which I think fills a gap in the world of panty sites. Panty Lane also links back heavily to this site and it’s sister sites.

To contribute to the panty community, by writing articles, posting in threads and offering my input where possible, as well as running my own panty oriented site.

To spread the word about some of the special things my girls do, to the people who would likely appreciate it the most.

I have now made a Yahoo account to help further my efforts. This is just another step towards increasing the ability for people to chat directly with me and/or the girls who I work with.

I am planning on doing some open chat sessions as follow-ups to the articles I write. Having an account specifically for this sort of thing will also make it easier for people to contact me about banner exchanges, uploading pics, etc.

Hopefully that helps. If there are any follow-up questions, feel free to ask or message me and you can hit me up on chat.

Thx,
FS

[Anna]

FreakySteve wrote:

Here is why I AM here:

To share my experience with panty sellers and perhaps help in their efforts.

To generate awareness of my site Panty Lane, which I think fills a gap in the world of panty sites. Panty Lane also links back heavily to this site and it’s sister sites.

To contribute to the panty community, by writing articles, posting in threads and offering my input where possible, as well as running my own panty oriented site.

To spread the word about some of the special things my girls do, to the people who would likely appreciate it the most.

I have now made a Yahoo account to help further my efforts. This is just another step towards increasing the ability for people to chat directly with me and/or the girls who I work with.

I am planning on doing some open chat sessions as follow-ups to the articles I write. Having an account specifically for this sort of thing will also make it easier for people to contact me about banner exchanges, uploading pics, etc.

Hopefully that helps. If there are any follow-up questions, feel free to ask or message me and you can hit me up on chat.

Thx,
FS

This is all very well but so far you have shown that you DON’T understand the panty community.

What advice can you give exactly? What is there that experienced and helpful sellers can’t do?

What gaps? What can you offer that Panty Hog and Panty Trust doesn’t already offer?

Seriously! Who the hell are you and what makes you think you know anything about the panty industry??

[Serena]

Freaky Steve you seem to be a man of many skills, good on you.

We are simply a group of easy going people having a bit of fun during our lunch breaks. We are not models and we have no budget for extravaganzas…
What you do or wish to share is honorable but I have the feeling you might find it redundant here on PH.

Cindy has been helping sellers on this site since the beginning of panty trading, there is nothing you can say that she hasn’t already shared with us.

Basically, we are a community of pervs just distracting ourselves from our day to day jobs, and you are taking the all experience far too seriously.

Now, if you have a joke we’ll like to hear it.

[Anna]

I’ve had a look at Panty Lane.

I think the last thing this community needs is another link farm.

[Cindy_PantyParadise]

Surely only girls who have been selling for years can offer real advice to other new sellers. How can you say you can offer advice about panty selling when you are a guy?

I appreciate you can offer it from a man’s point of view, but I have been selling my dirty undies for over a decade and got so popular I had to go exclusive because 6 month waiting lists were not doing anyone any favours.

I feel kind of insulted to be honest but if you think you can do a better job giving advice than myself and other long standing sellers and maybe do a better job of writing articles than we have provided on this site then good luck mate, but first impressions of you, I have to admit you have gotten my heckles well and truly UP mate.

[FreakySteve]

I didn’t use the quoting tags because they would have been too big for this post. Comments are below:

“This is all very well but so far you have shown that you DON’T understand the panty community.”

I am learning more about the panty community everyday, just like I am learning more about everything I do everyday. There are many things that I do that can be helpful. I may be new to this site and the “panty community” but I am not new to fetishes, kink, media production, marketing or selling panties and other items.

“What advise can you give exactly? What is there that experienced and helpful sellers can’t do?”

Well for one, there are many inexperienced sellers who could benefit from what I offer. There are also things that I do that can even benefit the top sellers out there. I would be willing to wager that the top sellers here (and elsewhere) are not doing some of the things that I do.

“What gaps? What can you offer that Panty Hog and Panty Trust doesn’t already offer?”

In a word “traffic”. Traffic means visitors and that means more people see your items. The more people who see your items the more potential buyers you will have. Traffic comes from all sorts of places and I can guarantee that I get traffic from different sources than this site and it’s sister sites.

This is a great site and I have no interest in re-inventing the wheel. My site is unique and I will continue to keep it different.

My skills are directed towards marketing and building the traffic to my sites (I have several) and then sending that traffic around to the mutual benefits of the site owners.

If you have enough visitors, are selling enough items and don’t need any extra exposure or help, that is perfectly okay. But for those out there who are interested in what I am doing, and would like the benefits of getting more visitors, I am more than happy to share.

So far, anything I have said here is backed up by additional information or I make sure to qualify my statements. At no time have I, or will I, claim expertise in areas where I am not knowledgable.

I understand how people are suspicious, especially in this business, but if you look at my sites, I think you will get the idea that I do have a lot to offer and I am completely legit.

[Anna]

What makes you think the panty community wants to be as commercial as you are?

You know nothing about selling panties mate, nothing.. . as you keep proving….Perhaps you should hang around and learn from us before you even start to think that you can offer us anything…

You’ll be calling yourself our ‘Panty Saviour’ next…when really all you look like is Colonel Sanders evil twin.

[FreakySteve]

Wow, this thread is generating some activity, there were posts made while I was writing my reply. Who would have thought my Yahoo debut would raise such controversy.

I do not mean to insult any of the experienced panty sellers out there. I have no doubt that you are all skilled at your craft, but I do have knowledge and expertise that can benefit anyone trying to sell their panties.

I can also be very opinionated and know what comes with that.

This is a relaxed site and has a great vibe. This is why I like this site. If I have gotten some people upset to the point that they have no interest in what I have to offer, that is perfectly okay, there are many out there who have been taking me up on my offers.

“I think the last thing this community needs is another link farm.”

If it were another link farm, I would understand this comment, however Panty Lane is not a link farm. Yes, there are ads there, as does any site have, but there is lots of content, and lots more on the way. With daily updates and some of it is exclusive.

Second to actual panties, buyers like pics and that is what Panty Lane has to offer. I am not dependent on pictures from the sellers at this site or others to keep Panty Lane going. I work with enough people that I could fill the site indefinitely with pictures and items from girls I know personally. However, variety is also good, so if there are real panty sellers out there who would like some traffic, I don’t mind offering it up.

The added bonus is that the picture uploading also works as free image hosting. This takes a small dig at the sites out there who try and charge for such a service.

I don’t charge panty sellers for what I offer, it’s all free. If sponsor ads get clicks then great, but this is a side project for me.

And, I want to avoid this particular aspect of the conversation, but I will say that, based on what I see here for average prices on items, I am quite confident that I know what I am talking about from both the buyer and seller position.

“You’ll be calling yourself our ‘Panty Saviour’ next…when really all you look like is Colonel Sanders evil twin.”

Ouch, personal attack noted. 🙁

[Desire]

as you post was so long i have copied and paste

“What advise can you give exactly? What is there that experienced and helpful sellers can’t do?”

“Well for one, there are many inexperienced sellers who could benefit from what I offer. There are also things that I do that can even benefit the top sellers out there. I would be willing to wager that the top sellers here (and elsewhere) are not doing some of the things that I do.”

i am sorry but speaking as a fairly new seller i would not go to someone like you, i know that is very bluntly put but i am being honest

i must be being very thick as i still can not see what you could offer new sellers?

so lets just say i am having trouble with a buyer and i need advice who would i go to??? a fella who does not even buy panties or the girls here eg, cindy, anna, serena and so on.???

i also think that the buyers/sellers here are doing a good job….we have our websites and our blogs so i can not see why i personaly would need somewhere else to host my pictures

i really must be missing something here as it just feels to me that there could be some other motive maybe

[Serena]

I’m none the wiser.
Your knowledge and expertise that can benefit anyone trying to sell their panties translates in a bunch of posts on several forums and some random links on your site.
Hardly original. Sorry, I just don’t see how this sets u apart.
Maybe some specific examples might help.
Thanks.

Serena

[Desire]

Serena wrote:

I’m none the wiser.
Your knowledge and expertise that can benefit anyone trying to sell their panties translates in a bunch of posts on several forums and some random links on your site.
Hardly original. Sorry, I just don’t see how this sets u apart.
Maybe some specific examples might help.
Thanks.

Serena

thanks Serena i was thinking it was me not getting it:unsure:

sam

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