Panty Dommes

[Anna]

The point I am making/was making is that ‘fetish’ has many different definitions so the word fetish is often used incorrectly.

This is a panty fetish site. We cater for guys who have fetishes for panties. This means they buy the panties and use them to wank over.

That is not the same as me liking my shoes.

When ‘fetish’ is discussed on this forum, contextually, it is relating to the psychosexual definition of fetishism which means that the person with the fetish is using the object of his fetishism ie panties instead of a person.

When you tell me that I have so much to learn and that what I said was incorrect – which by the way is insulting and patronising because the inference here is that you know oh so much more than me, then yes, I’ll take it personally.

[Anna]

I’ve moved this thread to Off Topic where it is better suited…and should have gone at its conception.

[FreakySteve]

Okay okay…

Here’s the thing, you stated that no Dom(me)s have fetishes.

Regardless of the context, this statement is false. The context is irrelevant because, regardless of how you choose to define fetish and/or Dom(me), saying that no Dom(me)s have fetishes is completely wrong.

If you want to narrow the definition of fetish, that is fine, Dom(me)s still have fetishes. If you want to narrow the definition of Dom(me), it is still applicable, Dom(me)s have fetishes. If you want to narrow the fetish, I will also say that there are Dom(me)s out there with a panty fetish and even to the point that they would wank to a pair of panties.

To have a submissive tied up and bent over, with her panties on, receive a spanking and then get a load of jizz from her Dom afterwards, on those panties, sounds quite D/s to me. All within the confines of the definitions you describe or clarifications you have made.

If you want to broaden the definitions of either word, the same still holds true, Dom(me)s can and do have fetishes, plain and simple, across the board.

If you want to make broad, bold statements, it is important that you be able to support those statements. I made sure to qualify my earlier comments by saying that I, as well as all Dom(me)s have learning to do, as any good Dom(me) knows.

[Anna]

FreakySteve wrote:

Okay okay…

Here’s the thing, you stated that no Dom(me)s have fetishes.

I did? Are you sure?

Regardless of the context, this statement is false. The context is irrelevant because, regardless of how you choose to define fetish and/or Dom(me), saying that no Dom(me)s have fetishes is completely wrong.

Regardless of context? This is a site that is aimed at the panty fetish? How much more contextual can you get!?

If you want to narrow the definition of fetish, that is fine, Dom(me)s still have fetishes.

I’m quite sure that some Doms do. Who says I’m narrowing a definition? I’m saying there are several meanings of fetishism mainly because the true meaning has been diluted in recent years. When most people refer to fetishism they don’t know the original meaning.

If you want to narrow the definition of Dom(me), it is still applicable, Dom(me)s have fetishes. If you want to narrow the fetish, I will also say that there are Dom(me)s out there with a panty fetish and even to the point that they would wank to a pair of panties.

Doms may do…and no I don’t believe I did narrow the definition of Dom or Domme. I may however have been talking about Dommes with other Dommes. You may not have realised but there is little call for male Doms around here…

To have a submissive tied up and bent over, with her panties on, receive a spanking and then get a load of jizz from her Dom afterwards, on those panties, sounds quite D/s to me. All within the confines of the definitions you describe or clarifications you have made.

That may be so but I was talking about Dommes. Not only was I talking about Dommes, I was talking about Pro-Dommes, and most of us don’t add that level of sexual element to our sessions whether online or real time…sooo…not quite getting the relevance I’m afraid…

If you want to broaden the definitions of either word, the same still holds true, Dom(me)s can and do have fetishes, plain and simple, across the board.

Doms may do…

If you want to make broad, bold statements, it is important that you be able to support those statements. I made sure to qualify my earlier comments by saying that I, as well as all Dom(me)s have learning to do, as any good Dom(me) knows.

Like I said before…I was talking about Dommes to another Domme…

If you want to continue with this debate may I suggest that you stop misquoting me and stop assuming that you know what was going on at the time…six months ago…

[FreakySteve]

The point I was making about context was that my statement is applicable to any context. So in trying to change the definition or nature of the topic, your statement is still incorrect. What I said is also applicable regardless of gender. Dommes can and do have fetishes, sexual or not, panties or otherwise.

Although this thread was started six months ago, I replied to it because it was posted to recently by a couple of people.

And to quote myself earlier:

…and maybe stir up some controversy in the process

:woohoo:

[Anna]

FreakySteve wrote:

The point I was making about context was that my statement is applicable to any context. So in trying to change the definition or nature of the topic, your statement is still incorrect. What I said is also applicable regardless of gender. Dommes can and do have fetishes, sexual or not, panties or otherwise.

Although this thread was started six months ago, I replied to it because it was posted to recently by a couple of people.

And to quote myself earlier:

…and maybe stir up some controversy in the process

:woohoo:

I still say that Dommes do not have fetishes – in the true and original sense of the word. I have explained further still that I was referring to pro-dommes who don’t use sexual acts in their sessions. Yet you still fail, or refuse, to accept my use of the word ‘fetish’ – despite me explaining exactly what I was talking about.

http://psychologytoday.com/conditions/fetishism.html

By the way, there is stirring up controversy and there is trolling…

[FreakySteve]

Okay Anna.

Clearly this has now become a case of your justifying your correctness instead of being a debate.

You didn’t like your statement being challenged and it would appear that you are taking it as some form of threat to your knowledge of psychology, fetishism, Dommedom, panty selling or whatever other topic you want to link your original statement to.

If people want to believe your statements, that is their choice. I have offered an alternative viewpoint and I have no shame about expressing it. You can call it whatever you like, but I have managed to state my case politely and clearly. If you disagree with what I have said, then that is also your right to expression.

I would be willing to agree that we are in complete disagreement.

[Desire]

Anna wrote:

By the way, there is stirring up controversy and there is trolling…

it does make you wonder as you have come here with some very strange ideas, am i right in thinking that you said you did not buy/sell panties?? because for me that sets the alarm bells ringing after all this is a “panty community” where people who enjoy a panty “fetish” come together for a bit of pleasure and fun, we do not do this to make loads of money and i think that is where you are different from us!

sam

[Anna]

FreakySteve wrote:

Okay Anna.

Clearly this has now become a case of your justifying your correctness instead of being a debate.

You didn’t like your statement being challenged and it would appear that you are taking it as some form of threat to your knowledge of psychology, fetishism, Dommedom, panty selling or whatever other topic you want to link your original statement to.

If people want to believe your statements, that is their choice. I have offered an alternative viewpoint and I have no shame about expressing it. You can call it whatever you like, but I have managed to state my case politely and clearly. If you disagree with what I have said, then that is also your right to expression.

I would be willing to agree that we are in complete disagreement.

your knowledge of psychology, fetishism, Dommedom, panty selling You said it.

You can’t accept that you have misunderstood me and you haven’t apologised for misquoting me. :huh:

Goodbye Freaky Steve – somehow I don’t think anybody here is going to give anything you say any credibility anyway.
:laugh:

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